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Citadel M1 Carbine - 9mm
« on: April 25, 2013, 10:17:52 AM »
http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/2013/04/25/citadel-m1-carbine-9mm/

Ok this is something I've been asking for - an M1 Carbine in an easy to find - at least used to be, easy to find caliber in the same lightweight handy package.  I'm not sure of the final quality as I haven't seen one yet, but the idea has merit. 

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In the 2013 Legacy Sports International catalog, the company announced the introduction of a Citadel M-1 Carbine chambered in 9mm.  No pricing was announced, nor was any other specifications beyond caliber.  The projected shipping date was listed as ā€œlate 2013.ā€

Also announced by the company was the introduction of threaded barrels for the .22 LR chambered M-1 carbines.  Threaded barrels will be available in both the wood stock and black synthetic stock versions.  Pricing is $349 for the synthetic version and $426 for the wood.
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Re: Citadel M1 Carbine - 9mm
« Reply #1 on: April 25, 2013, 10:58:51 AM »
If I were looking for a lightweight, handy, 9mm carbine I think I'd forgo having one that looks like an M1 carbine in favor of something that uses more readily available mags.

It's a shame the Ruger PC9, and Marlin Camp Carbines were discontinued because they'd really fit the bill. Still you could get a Beretta CX4, MecTec conversion, or Keltec Sub2K and be pretty close.

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Re: Citadel M1 Carbine - 9mm
« Reply #2 on: April 25, 2013, 11:41:50 AM »
Never shot this rifle, or even heard of it, but I think there are better alternatives.  The Kel-tec sub 2000 is an awesome value for the price, plus it would make a great camping gun.  The other question is if they just introduced this gun what were they thinking??? :blink  9mm is harder to get than anything except .22LR for me.  And with that 9mm is not really that cheap anymore compared to other calibers.

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Re: Citadel M1 Carbine - 9mm
« Reply #3 on: April 25, 2013, 11:43:47 AM »
The other question is if they just introduced this gun what were they thinking??? :blink  9mm is harder to get than anything except .22LR for me.  And with that 9mm is not really that cheap anymore compared to other calibers.

It probably spent at least a year in development before being released.

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Re: Citadel M1 Carbine - 9mm
« Reply #4 on: April 25, 2013, 12:56:02 PM »
So much to say about this.  First off, no fault of their own that their release date is during the great ammo drought.  It is easier to find guns and mags than ammo right now.

Second, the mags for M1 Carbines are as available as anything else, but they are going to have to use a different mag, as 30 Carbine mags are much too long for 9mm.

Don't know about the others Jesse listed, but KelTecs are as hard to find (for a reasonable price) as an honest politician.  You would be better off with a 9mm upper for your AR.

I'd like a threaded barrel for my M1 Carbine so I could mount a suppressor.  Hmm, you would have to regulate the gas or hand load....

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Re: Citadel M1 Carbine - 9mm
« Reply #5 on: April 25, 2013, 02:03:11 PM »
I'd like a threaded barrel for my M1 Carbine so I could mount a suppressor.  Hmm, you would have to regulate the gas or hand load....

 :facepalm  I kind of hate you right now...  I had never  thought of a suppressed M1 Carbine before now...  :doh
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Re: Citadel M1 Carbine - 9mm
« Reply #6 on: April 25, 2013, 02:04:51 PM »
Imagine how you'd feel if you actually owned one.   :facepalm


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Re: Citadel M1 Carbine - 9mm
« Reply #7 on: April 25, 2013, 02:13:17 PM »
It's too bad making an M1 carbine barrel with a 1-7 twist would be so tricky (with the integral gas block I wouldn't want to attempt it) - you'd probably be able to load up some really nice 180-200 gr subsonic loads.

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Re: Citadel M1 Carbine - 9mm
« Reply #8 on: April 25, 2013, 02:24:58 PM »
Man that would be like buying an aftermarket 6" barrel for a Glock 20 and threading it....
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Re: Citadel M1 Carbine - 9mm
« Reply #9 on: April 25, 2013, 02:26:26 PM »
^^ Ouch.  :blink


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Re: Citadel M1 Carbine - 9mm
« Reply #10 on: April 25, 2013, 02:33:04 PM »
^^ Ouch.  :blink


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Re: Citadel M1 Carbine - 9mm
« Reply #11 on: April 25, 2013, 02:34:57 PM »
Sorry I couldn't resist...
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Re: Citadel M1 Carbine - 9mm
« Reply #12 on: April 25, 2013, 02:37:11 PM »
Man that would be like buying an aftermarket 6" barrel for a Glock 20 and threading it....

You'd have to get something like these to feed it:
http://www.doubletapammo.com/php/catalog/product_info.php?products_id=158

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Re: Citadel M1 Carbine - 9mm
« Reply #13 on: April 25, 2013, 02:49:03 PM »
"The heaviest and deepest penetrating 10mm in existence!"

"Ballistics : 1120fps/ 641 ft./lbs."

 :saywhat

Buffalo Bore makes a harder hitting round.

https://www.buffalobore.com/index.php?l=product_detail&p=114

"1,350fps/M.E. 728 ft. lbs"

Or do I not understand?


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Re: Citadel M1 Carbine - 9mm
« Reply #14 on: April 25, 2013, 02:54:18 PM »
Harder hitting, but supersonic.  ;)

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Re: Citadel M1 Carbine - 9mm
« Reply #15 on: April 25, 2013, 02:56:59 PM »
T - marketing man - not truth ;)  Douple Tap used to be the big dogs in power ammo & never changed. 
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Re: Citadel M1 Carbine - 9mm
« Reply #16 on: April 25, 2013, 03:19:44 PM »
Harder hitting, but supersonic.  ;)

Ohhhh....


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Re: Citadel M1 Carbine - 9mm
« Reply #17 on: April 25, 2013, 03:24:21 PM »
T - marketing man - not truth ;)

Weeelll... until I see differently on a chrono, I have to assume that's true in both cases don't I?  In which case the claims cancel each other out equally.


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