Like I said, get your facts straight. They didn't surrender one for the other. One was wrenched from them, and they (the voters) took steps to correct the issue, by removing some of the folks responsible. The other was driven by... oops! those damn voters again.
There is nothing wrong with my facts. It's your understanding of the political process that needs work. A lot of it, along with your drifting away from the root source of this whole problem. You are over complicating all of this.
The fact is none of this would have happened if they had not elected Democratic liberals to begin with. They did, and now they have a gargantuan mess to try to clean up. They'll never succeed in doing it as long as there are liberals running that state. Perhaps they can vote some of them out next week. That remains to be seen. But either way the damage is already done, and it will be all but impossible to undo with Democrats in power. And the more Hispanics that pour in here, the more Democrats you're going to have. It's becoming an irreversible political posture. California has already proven that.
While they, at this point, still can't own those items, there are initiatives in the works to get that changed. It takes time.
It will most likely never happen. Look at anti gun legislation in Democratic stronghold states like Massachusetts and California. The tide of gun control just keeps building. It all but never gets overturned. It just keeps getting worse in places like Chicago, Illinois and Colorado. Liberals are the reason why. The same liberals that support legalized drugs you so want to have.
I'm sure when the Clinton gun ban passed, they were thinking that it was here to stay (thank <insert deity> for sunset clauses). I'm also certain that when Chicago, and DC passed their draconian gun laws they where thinking the very same thing. Nothing is written in stone. And even if it were, I'm sure someone out there has got a nice big sledge hammer.
The "sledge hammer" has already fallen. I lived in Chicago for 38 years, and watch gun control only get worse. In the 23 years I've been gone that trend has continued. You can't even own a firearm there unless you possess a F.O.I.D. Card. The state decides solely if they want to give you one or not. The Democrats learned their lesson with sunset clauses. That is why Colorado anti gun legislation does not have any. They'll last forever. And as far as your voter initiative on pot, do you honestly think that would have held up in an all Republican controlled legislature? They would have had it over turned in a heartbeat. Look at all of the trouble gay marriage has gone through. Countless times voters have voted it in on the ballot, only to have it overturned at the Federal level. Well over half of the voter initiatives fall to the judges gavel. I don't agree with that, but that's the political system we currently live under.
That's the unique thing about the US. We can change things. No one thought that we'd ever have CCW in Arizona. Now we have Constitutional Carry. The point you missed about Kronos and T.'s posts, is that the Constitution does not convey any rights, it affirms them, and limits, by specifically enumeration, what the government can do with respect to those rights. You should also read and understand the Tenth Amendment
All of Arizona's pro gun carry laws passed under a
Republican run legislature, and a Second Amendment
REPUBLICAN Governor. Do you think you would be carrying guns in bars if Janet Napolitano remained on as Governor? You would still have speeding and red light cameras all over the Valley. All of this blather changes nothing about my original post. Democrats ban guns. They also like drug legalization. You vote for one, you're going to get the other, regardless of how much you want to believe otherwise. Gun control has been a solid plank in the Democratic platform for decades. Look at every single major gun law on the books. Every one of them going back to the National Firearms Act Of 1934
was sponsored by, crafted in committee, and voted into law BY DEMOCRATS. Yes, Republicans have passed a few gun control laws, but they are not a sponsor of them. You have a majority of Democrats that do not want you to own guns. You have a majority of Republicans that do not support gun control.
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