H&R Pardner Pump Shotgun

[brandyspaw]

Anyone have one or shoot one much?  Are they something decent to recommend to someone on a severe budget?

I've got an old friend who's trying to get something real cheap for a home defense shotgun.  I had recommended he shop around to find a used Remington 870 or Mossberg 500. He claims he can't find any reasonable ones in his locale but wants to buy an H&R Pardner pump from his local Walmart that are priced right at $200.

I don't know too much about them. I do know they're a Chinese copy of the Remy M870 even down to the parts (other than the barrels) interchanging.  In handling them, they seem very heavy.  I just have never shot one and don't know much more about them.   

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[LuckyLeaky]

The RIA M5 is also a cheap shotgun....can be bought for around 189 for a black and 219 for nickel

[Glock]

Like Lucky said.. or I got from Walmart and attractive stevens 320 ..it was same thing 200 at Walmart

[NavajoWarrior]

its a good gun, rez approved. Used it a lot for hunting coyotes. Dropped it countless times in the dirt, still shoots.

[870policemag]

its a good gun, rez approved. Used it a lot for hunting coyotes. Dropped it countless times in the dirt, still shoots.

I had a Norinco hawk 98 with ghost ring sights years ago. I frigging loved love that shotgun. Those pardner pumps are the same thing. Most of the parts are compatible with 870 stuff. I like em. 

[gamestalker]

 I've had and still keep a few of those on hand as training SG's for grand kids, my own before they grew up, and for those who have little to no experience with SG's. I've always considered them as a disposable SG though. After having the first one or two repaired when a firing pin broke, or the fore end stock retainer let go, and other break downs that border on expense out weighs replacement from an economic stand point. I decided it was just better to replace them and save the old one's for parts.
 
 GS

[gamestalker]

Oops, I was thinking the OP was referring to the single shot H&R style SG's before I hit the post button.

 GS

[Fenderbassist]

Had one some  years ago, it was decent but I found that I liked a Mossberg better.  Not putting down the Pardner / Hawk 982, RIA/Armscor or any of the other options out there.  Was simply discovering my preference.

[coelacanth]

If you shop around, you can actually find original H&R pump guns as well as High Standards and some of the contract guns made for retailers like Sears and Montgomery Ward's back in the day.  A lot of those old guns sat in a closet except for a few forays afield in search of quail once or twice a year and are still in fine shape.  The metallurgy and workmanship tend to be better than the foreign made knock-offs that are taking advantage of the expired patents.  The Savage/Stevens, Mossberg, High Standard, H&R & Winchester guns still have fairly decent parts availability as well.   Wandering around looking through used gun racks is a rewarding pastime even if you don't buy anything that day. 

[1911_username]

Their just a cheap Chinese knockoff of the Rem 870. Their great for a spare paddle if you loose one duck hunting!

For HD purpose? Heck if it goes Bang Bang Bang...why not if price is a factor.

[FreeInAZ]

I've heard some folks have done metallurgy testing on these knock off vs the 870 express models. Shocking to find that the steel in the commie guns was actually better. Any way, here's a review from a reputable YouTube source (IMHO).

[FreeInAZ]

As to the Chinese guns vs the RIA... I will say my RIA is a good gun. That said the +2 speed feed stock it came with had a bad spring coil. I called their Tech support in NV, and got the run around for weeks. I finally clipped the bad end coil (bent sideways from factory) out and fixed the issue myself. Apparently the folks in their SG division also are the janitorial staff?  The M5 also has little to no upgrades available. I did order a pistol grip for it from RIA  which costs $25 + shipping and doesn't even come with the screw or washer .... needed. WTF?

RIA for 1911's I guess. For SG's not so much... IMHO if after market parts or support are important to you. Just my experience.

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