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Pwc

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When does a firearm
« on: May 31, 2018, 05:58:53 pm »
become a curio and relic? 
How old does it have to be? 
Is there a "type" designation; i.e. single shot breach, muzzle loader, other? 
What are the owning / transporting / selling / gifting limitations?

Documentation / website with governing docs, please.  Thanks ahead for the help.

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    1911_username

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    Re: When does a firearm
    « Reply #1 on: May 31, 2018, 07:51:31 pm »
    It's not When Does, it's what the Feds Say.

    https://www.atf.gov/firearms/curios-relics

    Thernlund

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    Re: When does a firearm
    « Reply #2 on: June 01, 2018, 01:45:43 pm »
    50+ years old, unmoddified, not NFA.   ^^^ 1911's link has all the info.


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    anm2_man

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    Re: When does a firearm
    « Reply #3 on: June 01, 2018, 03:30:47 pm »
    50+ years old, unmoddified, not NFA.   ^^^ 1911's link has all the info.


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    T.  The doc on that site has NFA items. 
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    Re: When does a firearm
    « Reply #4 on: June 01, 2018, 03:50:08 pm »
    nfa items before 68 , as i have several friends who have nfa items from ww1, and ww2, listed as C&R


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    Re: When does a firearm
    « Reply #5 on: June 01, 2018, 04:33:54 pm »
    T.  The doc on that site has NFA items.

    Firearms automatically attain C&R status when they are 50 years old. Any firearm that is at least 50 years old, and in its original configuration, would qualify as a C&R firearm. It is not necessary for such firearms to be listed in ATF's C&R list. Therefore, ATF does not generally list firearms in the C&R publication by virtue of their age. However, if you wish for a classification of your particular firearm under categories (b) or (c) above and wish your item to be listed, you may submit the weapon to the Firearms and Ammunition Technology Division (FATD) for a formal classification.

    I like how they say that if you want your firearm to be listed, you have to send it to them first! :doh

    Please note that firearms regulated under the National Firearms Act (NFA) may be classified as C&R items, but still may be subject to the provisions of the NFA. If your C&R item is an NFA firearm (e.g., Winchester Trappers) and you desire removal from the NFA status, you must submit it to FATD for evaluation and a formal classification.

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    Re: When does a firearm
    « Reply #6 on: June 01, 2018, 09:09:36 pm »
    The way I understood the spirit of the OP's question was as asking when is a firearm treated as C&R, as in ship to your door and whatnot.  Not when it technically is C&R.

    An M60 machine gun or a Maxim Silencer could be classed as C&R all day long and twice on Sunday, but there's no way in hell it's going to be treated like a Mosin or a Polish P64 would be, no matter what the ATF writes on their website.  NFA weapons get special treatment regardless of age.  That's the (unfortunate) reality.

    Maybe the OP meant something different and I didn't understand, certainly possible.  But the question I was answering was in that vein.


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    Re: When does a firearm
    « Reply #7 on: April 04, 2019, 12:55:16 pm »
    Its a very gray area it seems.
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