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Why Do I Carry?
« on: December 03, 2019, 11:15:52 pm »
I was trying to reply to a newbie post by Bobdale (or something like that) and finally realized it was locked. But I wanted to answer. The answer I give to that question when anyone asks me is a simple link.

https://www.mugshotsonline.com/arizona

That's why.
"This gun is Liberty. Hold for certain that the day when you no more have it, you will be returned to slavery." - Toussaint L'Ouverture

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    Re: Why Do I Carry?
    « Reply #1 on: December 04, 2019, 02:51:29 am »
    "To shoot bad people in their stupid faces"

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    Re: Why Do I Carry?
    « Reply #2 on: December 04, 2019, 06:16:50 am »
    So I can die peacefully at a place and age of my choosing, not on some sidewalk one afternoon when I have things to do.
    The only thing that separates man from animal is our affinity for toilet paper.
    Once we, as a society, lose that affinity, we begin to descend back into the animal kingdom, and after three or more days you will find the food chain beginning to invert on itself.

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    Re: Why Do I Carry?
    « Reply #3 on: December 04, 2019, 09:07:37 am »
    If you ever need one and dont have it you will do one of two things.
    1) You will cry and scream for gun control like a coward.
    2) You will take responsibility for your own safety, carry and learn how to use it.
    I chose number 2.

    I have carried for a long time and I have needed it. My favorite is a Glock 26 but I am getting old and have to consider my capabilities. Lately I have been carrying a 357 revolver loaded with 38 spl+P. Heavy enough to tame the recoil. More likely if I get into a situation it will be up close and I may have to jam the muzzle against the attackers body. A semi auto will likely jam in that situation.

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    Re: Why Do I Carry?
    « Reply #4 on: January 08, 2020, 04:19:23 pm »
    I was trying to reply to a newbie post by Bobdale (or something like that) and finally realized it was locked. But I wanted to answer. The answer I give to that question when anyone asks me is a simple link.

    https://www.mugshotsonline.com/arizona

    That's why.

    Helpful. I appreciate your perspective. Thx

    Especially after the Texas Church incident I’m strongly considering carrying.  Although I’ve passed the California firearms safety course (pretty sure a fourth grader could) I probably need more thorough training.  That’s a story for another day tho.

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    Re: Why Do I Carry?
    « Reply #5 on: January 08, 2020, 08:04:33 pm »
    1*. That's why.

    Seriously though, if there's a place where I think I'm lonely to have to defend against deadly force,  I ain't going.  Carry is for al other times where I don't anticipate needing it but as ther wise one mentioned, is like having a fire extinguisher.

    Lived in coastal California for 30+ years but before I saw it rot into crap, spent my childhood in the midwest where guns were no big deal.

    The California weirdness is new. It used to be a quite a western state before socialists and illegals took over.

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    « Last Edit: January 08, 2020, 08:13:35 pm by PogoJack »

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    Re: Why Do I Carry?
    « Reply #6 on: January 09, 2020, 06:19:07 am »
    Because right now this guy is operating in my neighborhood (85331).
    https://www.rapsheetz.com/arizona/doc-prisoner/BUTCH_EPHRIM/196464

    He's approaching women in parking-lots offering to fix the dents in their car in a very pushy insisting kind of way and then demanding more money than originally agreed to.
    Then he makes them go to the ATM and pull out more money.

    Maybe he's just out and trying to re-establish himself and lacks the social graces of how to run a business and make money.  Maybe he's an opportunistic predator.  Either way this is why you keep your head on a swivel and a really loud Plan-B in your appendix carry.
    The only thing that separates man from animal is our affinity for toilet paper.
    Once we, as a society, lose that affinity, we begin to descend back into the animal kingdom, and after three or more days you will find the food chain beginning to invert on itself.

    https://www.qrz.com/db/n5mkh

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    Re: Why Do I Carry?
    « Reply #7 on: January 09, 2020, 06:54:24 am »
    The California weirdness is new. It used to be a quite a western state before socialists and illegals took over.
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    People under appreciate the impact the courts overturning Prop 187 had on the politics of California.  Invite a crap ton of people into your state from socialist countries, and you get a socialist state government. THAT is one huge reason why California changed.

    It changed me. I used to be comfortable around guns.  Then I had to into hiding like I was a social deviant when gun owners in my coastal town became the boogeymen. Now hopefully the healing can begin  :-)

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    Re: Why Do I Carry?
    « Reply #8 on: January 12, 2020, 06:35:17 pm »
    How cool can you be when something happens. The worlds chillest man.

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    Re: Why Do I Carry?
    « Reply #9 on: January 12, 2020, 08:09:05 pm »
    How cool can you be when something happens. The worlds chillest man.

    Must have been the world's only sober armed robber.  I can't believe this guy didn't get shot. No ammo in the gun? Maybe just mad respect for large testicles?! 👏
    « Last Edit: January 12, 2020, 08:12:24 pm by Clifffalling »
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    Re: Why Do I Carry?
    « Reply #10 on: April 07, 2020, 11:31:51 pm »

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    Re: Why Do I Carry?
    « Reply #11 on: April 08, 2020, 12:46:09 pm »
    "To shoot bad people in their stupid faces"
    Wish we could vote on best response. Made me LOL

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    Re: Why Do I Carry?
    « Reply #12 on: April 08, 2020, 01:22:05 pm »
    Did you have to post that photo of me?  It's terrible...   :shocked

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    Re: Why Do I Carry?
    « Reply #13 on: April 22, 2020, 08:20:32 pm »
    I've always believed in a saying I saw a few years ago...

    I carry a gun cause I'm too young to die and too old to take an ass whoopin.
    There is nothing more deceptive then an obvious fact. - Sherlock Holmes

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    Re: Why Do I Carry?
    « Reply #14 on: April 24, 2020, 05:59:17 am »
     :thumbup
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    Re: Why Do I Carry?
    « Reply #15 on: May 01, 2020, 09:24:27 pm »
    I always say its the same reason I have a fire extinguisher, or wear seat belts, etc.  It's only modern liberal thinking that makes a gun seem like something unusual.  I wear underwear every day....I dont think about putting that on much more than I do a firearm (other than the safe handling aspects, of course.)

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    Re: Why Do I Carry?
    « Reply #16 on: August 23, 2020, 10:23:24 am »
    Why the Gun is Civilization

    Human beings only have two ways to deal with one another: reason and force. If you want me to do something for you, you have a choice of either convincing me via argument, or force me to do your bidding under threat of force. Every human interaction falls into one of those two categories, without exception. Reason or force, that's it.

    In a truly moral and civilized society, people exclusively interact through persuasion. Force has no place as a valid method of social interaction, and the only thing that removes force from the menu is the personal firearm, as paradoxical as it may sound to some.

    When I carry a gun, you cannot deal with me by force. You have to use reason and try to persuade me, because I have a way to negate your threat or employment of force. The gun is the only personal weapon that puts a 100-pound woman on equal footing with a 220-pound mugger, a 75-year old retiree on equal footing with a 19-year old gangbanger, and a single gay guy on equal footing with a carload of drunk guys with baseball bats. The gun removes the disparity in physical strength, size, or numbers between a potential attacker and a defender.

    There are plenty of people who consider the gun as the source of bad force equations. These are the people who think that we'd be more civilized if all guns were removed from society, because a firearm makes it easier for a mugger to do his job. That, of course, is only true if the mugger's potential victims are mostly disarmed either by choice or by legislative fiat--it has no validity when most of a mugger's potential marks are armed. People who argue for the banning of arms ask for automatic rule by the young, the strong, and the many, and that's the exact opposite of a civilized society. A mugger, even an armed one, can only make a successful living in a society where the state has granted him a force monopoly.

    Then there's the argument that the gun makes confrontations lethal that otherwise would only result in injury. This argument is fallacious in several ways. Without guns involved, confrontations are won by the physically superior party inflicting overwhelming injury on the loser. People who think that fists, bats, sticks, or stones don't constitute lethal force watch too much TV, where people take beatings and come out of it with a bloody lip at worst. The fact that the gun makes lethal force easier works solely in favor of the weaker defender, not the stronger attacker. If both are armed, the field is level. The gun is the only weapon that's as lethal in the hands of an octogenarian as it is in the hands of a weightlifter. It simply wouldn't work as well as a force equalizer if it wasn't both lethal and easily employable.

    When I carry a gun, I don't do so because I am looking for a fight, but because I'm looking to be left alone. The gun at my side means that I cannot be forced, only persuaded. I don't carry it because I'm afraid, but because it enables me to be unafraid. It doesn't limit the actions of those who would interact with me through reason, only the actions of those who would do so by force. It removes force from the equation...and that's why carrying a gun is a civilized act.
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    Re: Why Do I Carry?
    « Reply #17 on: August 23, 2020, 07:45:59 pm »
     :thumbup
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    Re: Why Do I Carry?
    « Reply #18 on: August 24, 2020, 06:10:18 am »
    I like. I have not heard that take. Valid points. It that from one of his books or from something else?
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    Re: Why Do I Carry?
    « Reply #19 on: August 24, 2020, 11:38:56 pm »
    This.

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    Re: Why Do I Carry?
    « Reply #20 on: August 25, 2020, 12:13:41 am »
    This.

     :thumbup  :rotfl

    Thank you. That was funny. Needed a laugh.
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    Re: Why Do I Carry?
    « Reply #21 on: September 16, 2020, 08:58:25 pm »
    I've always believed in a saying I saw a few years ago...

    I carry a gun cause I'm too young to die and too old to take an ass whoopin.
    So many great posts here. There should be a like button, but this one is so close to home! :thumbup

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    Re: Why Do I Carry?
    « Reply #22 on: November 09, 2020, 03:42:19 pm »
     ;-D ;-D ;-D good read

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