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armoredman

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Re: Sell reloads ?
« Reply #25 on: March 06, 2020, 01:26:02 am »

Since when have you needed an FFL to sell ammo? UNAMMO here in Phoenix only sells ammo and they don't have an FFL.

https://www.atf.gov/firearms/qa/person-who-reloads-ammunition-required-be-licensed-manufacturer

This was what I was referring to. Not to commercial sales, but reloaders as I explored this option some years ago when others requested I sell them my reloads.
« Last Edit: March 06, 2020, 01:28:57 am by armoredman »

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    Re: Sell reloads ?
    « Reply #26 on: March 06, 2020, 08:13:21 am »
     You "do not" need a license (federally, state laws may differ, ie: CA, NJ, NY, etc.) to sell ammunition,                                    unless you reloaded it                  or you imported it.

    And the OP is talking about RELOADS, isn't he?
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    Re: Sell reloads ?
    « Reply #27 on: March 06, 2020, 08:24:49 am »
    You "do not" need a license (federally, state laws may differ, ie: CA, NJ, NY, etc.) to sell ammunition,                                    unless you reloaded it                  or you imported it.

    And the OP is talking about RELOADS, isn't he?

    Quote from: anm2_man on March 02, 2020, 04:03:23 pm
    You got to be kidding me ??   UNAMMO is a nation wide distributor of Ammunition.   Howie (Owner of UNAMMO)  needs a license to to do that.  Unless you have some other proof that he has no License, please present it !  If not keep your mouth shut.  Commercial selling ammo requires you to have a FFL.

    Wow... this thread ran off the rails!
    Here's what I don't know.. If Howie (Owner of UNAMMO) has a license?

    Here's what I do know.. You "do not" need a license (federally, state laws may differ, ie: CA, NJ, NY, etc.) to sell ammunition, unless you reloaded it or you imported it. The tax issue mentioned, is not a concern of the BATFE. That is an IRS issue.

    If anyone disagrees, please cite the BATFE Regulation.
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    What??? Did you read the whole post??
    Howie doesn't need a license.
    If you sell your reloads you need a license.
    I hope this addresses the misunderstanding.

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    Re: Sell reloads ?
    « Reply #28 on: March 06, 2020, 09:11:17 am »
    A perfect example of the correct answer from Delta6:

    LAS VEGAS, Nev. – A federal grand jury sitting in Las Vegas indicted Arizona resident Douglas Haig today with one count of engaging in the business of manufacturing ammunition without a license, announced United States Attorney Dayle Elieson for the District of Nevada and Special Agent in Charge Aaron C. Rouse of the FBI’s Las Vegas Division.
    The investigation of Haig, 55, of Mesa, Arizona, arose out of the investigation of the October 1, 2017 mass shooting at the Route 91 Harvest music festival in Las Vegas. Haig is scheduled for an initial court appearance on the Indictment before U.S. Magistrate Judge George Foley Jr. on September 5, 2018, in Las Vegas, Nevada. He was previously charged in a criminal complaint.
    According to allegations in the indictment, from July 2016 to October 19, 2017, Haig, who did not have a federal firearms license to manufacture ammunition, was illegally conducting business as a manufacturer of various ammunition types. Haig previously operated “Specialized Military Ammunition,” an Internet business selling high explosive armor piercing incendiary ammunition, armor piercing incendiary ammunition, and armor piercing ammunition. Business records reveal that Haig sold armor piercing ammunition throughout the United States, including Nevada, Texas, Virginia, Wyoming, and South Carolina.
     
    Haig told investigators that he reloads ammunition, but does not offer reloaded cartridges for sale to his customers and none of the ammunition recovered in Las Vegas crime scenes would have tool marks on them consistent with his reloading equipment. Reloaded ammunition refers to ammunition that is manufactured from component parts, including previously fired cartridge cases. Based on a forensic examination of rounds recovered inside the suspect’s rooms at the Mandalay Bay Resort and Casino following the mass shooting, Haig’s fingerprints were found on reloaded, unfired .308 caliber cartridges. Forensic examination also revealed that armor piercing ammunition recovered inside of the shooter’s rooms had tool marks consistent with Haig’s reloading equipment.


    Haig was not charged or indicted for selling "high explosive armor piercing ammunition" through the Internet and at gun shows.  He was indicted because they found tool marks on "reloaded unfired .308 caliber cartridges".

    Takeaways, you do not need a license to resell loaded ammunition, you do need a license to reload (manufacture) ammunition and sell it, BUT, nobody cares unless something very bad happens.
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    Re: Sell reloads ?
    « Reply #29 on: March 17, 2020, 06:10:41 am »
    the sale of ole jims reloads might be a consideration now that ammo is scarce.

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    Re: Sell reloads ?
    « Reply #30 on: March 28, 2020, 12:20:26 am »
    Ole Jim might be hangin' on to them reloads for hisself, too. ;)

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    Re: Sell reloads ?
    « Reply #31 on: April 04, 2020, 04:53:01 am »
    Well ill would be interested in trying your 9mm ammo. Lets say donation per 1k rounds. That way you wont be selling it if that would be a problem.

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    Re: Sell reloads ?
    « Reply #32 on: April 04, 2020, 06:05:11 am »
    Well ill would be interested in trying your 9mm ammo. Lets say donation per 1k rounds. That way you wont be selling it if that would be a problem.

    sadly Jim passed away a few weeks ago the status of his reloaded ammo is in question,
    best of luck with hunt for ammo
    Rj

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