Changing barrel length?

[brucea4]

Hi gang,

What paperwork is involved with changing to a shorter barrel on, for example, a registered M16 rifle with a 20 inch barrel if any?

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[delta6]

None.. as long as it is not permanent.

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Gil knows more about this, I don't remember listing barrel length on my last 2 SBR's, but after reading your post, I think you mean on MG's, not SBR's?

[brucea4]

Yes, a MG.

[brucea4]

None.. as long as it is not permanent.

No, just switching to a complete upper assembly with a shorter barrel length less than 16 in...

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ah, interesting question, it would then become an SBR.

separate stamp, Delta?

seems to me that Uncle Sugar would want another $200...

[delta6]

ah, interesting question, it would then become an SBR.

separate stamp, Delta?

seems to me that Uncle Sugar would want another $200...

Once a MG, always a MG. The receiver dictates the stamp. Once an SBR.. well it is only an SBR when the barrel and OAL fall below the minimums. A machine gun, to change ownership has to have paperwork thru the BAT folks. A SBR, once you you remove the short barrel and place a 16" or more barrel on the firearm it is no longer a SBR. I have sold dozens of "papered" SBR's as title 1 firearms, by just replacing the barrel. The new owner of that firearm, if he wishes to place a short barrel on that firearm, has to file a new Form 1. The short version: MG's are always MG's, Straight..... SBR's can go either way
... there is no such thing in the registry as a short barreled MG. Once it is classified as a MG, regardless of the barrel length, it is still a MG.

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^^^^ and info like this, is why I ask him all my class 3 questions 

[brucea4]

Once a MG, always a MG. The receiver dictates the stamp. Once an SBR.. well it is only an SBR when the barrel and OAL fall below the minimums. A machine gun, to change ownership has to have paperwork thru the BAT folks. A SBR, once you you remove the short barrel and place a 16" or more barrel on the firearm it is no longer a SBR. I have sold dozens of "papered" SBR's as title 1 firearms, by just replacing the barrel. The new owner of that firearm, if he wishes to place a short barrel on that firearm, has to file a new Form 1. The short version: MG's are always MG's, Straight..... SBR's can go either way
... there is no such thing in the registry as a short barreled MG. Once it is classified as a MG, regardless of the barrel length, it is still a MG.

So....what you are saying is if I take the standard 20 inched rifle upper off my NFA M16 and put a 11 inch upper on it for instance there is no additional required paperwork? 

[delta6]

So....what you are saying is if I take the standard 20 inched rifle upper off my NFA M16 and put a 11 inch upper on it for instance there is no additional required paperwork?

That is correct. If you take any upper, 7", 11", 16", 20", etc off a registered M16 lower, it is still a MG. Makes no difference, unlike a SBR. With an SBR, when you remove the upper, the lower is no longer a SBR.

[brucea4]

Thank you sir!

[delta6]

So, show us a picture of that blaster with the new upper

[brucea4]

OK, as soon as I get sir....

[brucea4]

Here's a pic....can't wait to shoot it...

[delta6]

brucea4
Cool..

[pcmacd]

Once a MG, always a MG. The receiver dictates the stamp. Once an SBR.. well it is only an SBR when the barrel and OAL fall below the minimums. A machine gun, to change ownership has to have paperwork thru the BAT folks. A SBR, once you you remove the short barrel and place a 16" or more barrel on the firearm it is no longer a SBR. I have sold dozens of "papered" SBR's as title 1 firearms, by just replacing the barrel. The new owner of that firearm, if he wishes to place a short barrel on that firearm, has to file a new Form 1. The short version: MG's are always MG's, Straight..... SBR's can go either way
... there is no such thing in the registry as a short barreled MG. Once it is classified as a MG, regardless of the barrel length, it is still a MG.

That satisfies the head scratching I've been doing about acquiring a short barreled MG with a can.

I wondered why there were not THREE tax stamps involved?

Thanks.  Now I know.

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