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patkelly4370

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Phoenix to Flagstaff
« on: April 09, 2021, 07:25:43 am »
I don't know what it is about this 100 mile stretch, but I hate it.
I do it once a week (one way).


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    Earl Cordova

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    Re: Phoenix to Flagstaff
    « Reply #1 on: April 09, 2021, 07:41:43 am »
    At least it is not as bad as going to Yuma.

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    Re: Phoenix to Flagstaff
    « Reply #2 on: April 09, 2021, 07:46:42 am »
    Love the road, HATE the drivers/traffic !

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    Re: Phoenix to Flagstaff
    « Reply #3 on: April 09, 2021, 08:18:21 am »
    At least it is not as bad as going to Yuma.
    That's where I come from every week, lol.
    Bullhead City to Phoenix (noon Wed).
    Next day Phoenix (delivery) to Yuma (pick-up) to Ganado/Chambers.
    Then Chambers, AZ to Greensburg, KS.
    Greensburg to Lebo, KS (swap trailers) and back to Texhoma, OK.
    Texhoma to somewhere between mid-NM, as far as Holbrook.
    Back to Bullhead before sunrise on Monday.
    Every week.

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    Re: Phoenix to Flagstaff
    « Reply #4 on: April 09, 2021, 01:06:37 pm »
    I don't know what it is about this 100 mile stretch, but I hate it.
    I do it once a week (one way).


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    For me, it's the absolute fools on the roads. I've gone up and back a few times. The idiots is what makes it bothersome. Plus Flagstaff just seems full of liberals and weirdos.
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    Re: Phoenix to Flagstaff
    « Reply #5 on: April 09, 2021, 06:01:55 pm »
    I also go east to west through Flagstaff every week and it's not the same.
    Even coming up 17 in the wee hours and there's no traffic, still just don't like it.
    There are a few pleasant places to park if I run out of hours. Rest area at Rimrock for one.
    Weird.

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    Re: Phoenix to Flagstaff
    « Reply #6 on: April 09, 2021, 11:19:26 pm »
    Its a tough stretch of road going either direction.  I always felt the worst of it was between McGuireville and Phoenix as the traffic seems heavier and if you're running at 75 mph there's a steady stream of drivers going past you at 85-90 mph.  That stretch between Cordes Junction and New River may be the worst of it as the traffic coming in from Az. route 69 can be heavy - particularly on the weekends. 

    Throw in some heavy weather during the monsoon season or a winter storm and things can get stupid out there in a hurry.   :smh    I think if more people actually had to see what happens to the occupants of a passenger vehicle in a high speed collision/rollover it might slow them down a bit - or at least temper some of the aggression. 
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    Re: Phoenix to Flagstaff
    « Reply #7 on: April 09, 2021, 11:37:27 pm »
    I'm in an 18-wheeler, governed to 65mph, always northbound.

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    Re: Phoenix to Flagstaff
    « Reply #8 on: April 10, 2021, 08:54:58 am »
    At least it is not as bad as going to Yuma.

    IMO this is dependent on which route you take to Yuma.  The stretch of I-8 between Casa Grande and Yuma is the most utterly BORING drive. I-8 between Gila Bend and Yuma is worse. On the plus side, the road is fairly straight and in tolerable condition. On the down side, it's literally a drive through featureless open desert for 100+ miles. On this route, it's easy to lose focus. DPS apparently knows this as I've seen lots of cops hanging out just waiting for drivers on this highway.  It actually seemed worse on the Commiefornia side as there'd regularly be groups of cops hanging out and waiting for speeders on an overpass near Felicity (Winterhaven).

    An alternative route to Yuma is to drive south on US95 between Quartzsite and Yuma. During the day this route is somewhat less boring a drive. During snowbird season, however, you can expect carloads of snowbirds (also motorhomes) driving back and forth between Yuma and Quartzsite (out of boredom?). Traffic on this road gets REALLY BAD during the annual Quartzsite Gem show.  Too damn many snowbird vehicles driving under the speed limit bunched up.  Driving to/from YPG for work in the winter was never a fun experience.  At night, however, the road has significantly more potential for problems due to the nocturnal critters from the KOFA animal refuge that occasionally wander out onto the road looking for food. Another potential impediment on this road during the winter was the occasional trophy hunter who'd park halfway on/off the road, exit their car, and hop one of the barbed wire fences onto YPG to look for knick knacks. The husband of a former YPG co-worker of mine once told me that his agency (Yuma County Sheriff's office) and YPD got calls several times a year to deal with unexploded ordinance sitting on some snowbirds coffee table.

    A third route I found to get to/from Yuma was to take I-10 to the SR85 turn-off. Take SR85 south to Gila Bend. Transition onto the I-8 at Gila Bend. This route isn't quite as boring though there are way too many transitions and speed limit restrictions. From what I recall, the speed limit also leaves a LOT to be desired.

    In the five years I lived in Yuma, I likely traveled each of these routes dozens of times out of utter boredom. For long haul drivers, I'm thinking I-8 is, by far, the most well traveled route. US95 is likely doable but it's only a 2-lane highway. And the SR85 route would just plain suck to drive.
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    Re: Phoenix to Flagstaff
    « Reply #9 on: April 10, 2021, 09:17:38 am »
    PHX to FLG would be better if the slows would stay to their lane and let the fast lane stay fast - limited to 85 and no faster.
    For the most part the 18-wheelers stay in the right, but I see cars, trucks, jeeps and trailers (usually out of state) camping in the left lane at 55MPH because they are taking in all of the beautiful scenery.


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    Re: Phoenix to Flagstaff
    « Reply #10 on: April 11, 2021, 12:34:12 am »
    Could be worse, Phoenix to LA at least twice a month gets tedious.

    When I first did this drive nearly a decade ago, there was about a 2 hour period of no cell service before and after Blythe. Now there is 4G service the entire length of the I10. I just put my phone in the instrument cluster and let YouTube play. Two episodes of Joe Rogan or Tim Pool and I'm home.
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    Re: Phoenix to Flagstaff
    « Reply #11 on: April 11, 2021, 12:43:00 am »
    Monday morning I get back to Bullhead from Kansas.
    Monday afternoon (my day off) I'm shuttling a trailer to Ontario and back.
    I-40 to Barstow is boring, but doesn't bother me like 17 to Flagstaff.
    I-15 Tejon Pass is a PIA that may prevent me from getting back home.

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    Re: Phoenix to Flagstaff
    « Reply #12 on: April 12, 2021, 08:47:46 am »
    I-17 near Sunset Point is horrible.  Always seems to have a motorhome burning up there in the summer months.  Then the massive back ups.  Its almost like its a Bermuda Triangle kind of thing since so many motorhomes catch fire and burn the dry grass around the area.
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    Re: Phoenix to Flagstaff
    « Reply #13 on: April 15, 2021, 02:11:21 pm »
    About to leave Yuma and head up through Flagstaff.
    AGAIN
    Probably stop for the night at the rest area in Rimrock, though I could make Winslow.

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    Re: Phoenix to Flagstaff
    « Reply #14 on: April 15, 2021, 04:26:34 pm »
    Have the girls in Rimrock gotten any better?

    The only thing that separates man from animal is our affinity for toilet paper.
    Once we, as a society, lose that affinity, we begin to descend back into the animal kingdom, and after three or more days you will find the food chain beginning to invert on itself.

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    Re: Phoenix to Flagstaff
    « Reply #15 on: April 15, 2021, 07:03:32 pm »
    Have the girls in Rimrock gotten any better?


    How could they get any better than that?

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    Re: Phoenix to Flagstaff
    « Reply #16 on: April 17, 2021, 02:08:36 pm »
    The worst part about I-17 is there are virtually no other options when it's closed down for an accident.

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    Re: Phoenix to Flagstaff
    « Reply #17 on: April 18, 2021, 03:46:23 pm »
    The worst part about I-17 is there are virtually no other options when it's closed down for an accident.

    I have a Dirt Road Path that runs near Table Mesa.  It gets me from Anthem to the Rock Springs Cafe in Black Canyon City, but it takes twice as long as driving the interstate.
    I have an alternate path from Anthem to Prescott that goes through Wickenburg and up through Skull Valley - but it too takes twice as long.

    There are options but they rarely outweigh the amount of F'd up that is going on headed north.  It would have to be a fuel truck jack-knifed and took out three motor homes sending one full of endangered penguins down a ravine before any of these pay off.
    The only thing that separates man from animal is our affinity for toilet paper.
    Once we, as a society, lose that affinity, we begin to descend back into the animal kingdom, and after three or more days you will find the food chain beginning to invert on itself.

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    Re: Phoenix to Flagstaff
    « Reply #18 on: April 19, 2021, 10:51:34 am »
    Yup.  Some of those paths, especially the ones on dirt, get kind of iffy when you're in a passenger car.  The old highway into Prescott is kind of nice when you're not in a hurry but it too can be troublesome if the weather is nasty.  There's a few places in Arizona where the old adage, " You can't get there from here." applies.    ;-)
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    Re: Phoenix to Flagstaff
    « Reply #19 on: April 19, 2021, 11:49:21 am »
    Driving state route 89 between Congress and Prescott is definitely an "interesting" experience.  :whistle

    Not too long back I looked at a piece of property in Kirkland.  Had it not been for that old two lane road, I might have actually considered buying the property. Given that I still have a job in the Phoenix area, I just couldn't see spending two hours on that road to try to get down the hill. For that long of a commute I think I'd lean towards a property in Crown King instead.
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    Re: Phoenix to Flagstaff
    « Reply #20 on: April 21, 2021, 04:24:01 am »
    I semi-dread the summer months when we get visitors who want to see Sedona or the Grand Canyon.  That means I-17 and the insane drivers on that stretch from Black Canyon City to  Cordes Lakes.

    One July we were caught up in the traffic from a fatality near Sunset Point. It took nearly 2 hours to pass through. Add to that monsoon weather and it isn't the best time.

    I don't like that stretch of I-8 from SR-84 near Maricopa to Gila bend.

    I don't mind the drive to Yuma from Gila Bend too much.
    « Last Edit: April 21, 2021, 04:27:21 am by PogoJack »

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    Re: Phoenix to Flagstaff
    « Reply #21 on: April 30, 2021, 04:29:10 am »
    Doing Yuma to Flagstaff (and beyond) this morning.
    Left Yuma around 01:30. Now fuelling in Buckeye.
    At least I'm light. 69,000 lbs.

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