Outdoor shooting

[Bayonet]

It's definitely tough to shoot when it's smoking hot. Unless you like early AM.

When it's too miserable in the summer, I'll hit Shooter's World either in Peoria or Phoenix.

I like them. Yeah it's inside, and yeah I drop close to a $20 to go blasting but I got AC and don't have to walk to my target to get it and about die cause it's 1,000 degrees outside.

So inside is an option to escape the misery of the heat and burning sun during summer.

The Shooter's World in Peoria is my favorite.

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[Bayonet]

Speaking of outdoor shooting, recently I've heard two people mention that shooting steel case ammo can cause a fire (the bi-metal bullet hitting a rock and creating a spark). I've heard of indoor ranges not allowing the use of steel case ammo for various reasons, but is there any documented situation where the ammo created a spark and caused a fire? 

[Mr. Nobody]

The Shooter's World in Peoria is my favorite.

I agree. Clean facility, nice shooting experience always, and staff are alright.

On the plus side with indoor ranges, no breaks in shooting like needed for outdoor ranges.

[MikeT]

This is a certified case of an indoor range fire caused by steel ammo, this is over 15 years ago. Burnsville Pistol Range (Burnsville MN), had recently added a 50 yard rifle bay and instead of the usual steel circular bullet velocity reduecer used in the pistol bays the builder used chopped up used tires. shortly after opening the new bay someone fire some sort of steel projectile and it started a fire in the rifle bay after apparently hitting some tire belting used to stop the bullets. significant damage was done to the range, but was repaired and is still open today. I had moved from MN 16 years ago and as I recall I had heard about it from my daughter who still lives in MN. So I'm very light on details, but I know for certain it actually happened. During my days in MN this was my go-to indoor range, have put many thousands of rounds into the backstop there.

Mike

[SupportThe2nd]

I've looked at the BLM website for info if that may be helpful to you:

https://www.blm.gov/programs/recreation/arizona/recreational-shooting?fbclid=IwAR26G0c4-cGOySDLYFhpscJCvvNBRg5nTzo9jxNMWBTQpyITjcKck9ARogA

[Bayonet]

This is a certified case of an indoor range fire caused by steel ammo, this is over 15 years ago. Burnsville Pistol Range (Burnsville MN), had recently added a 50 yard rifle bay and instead of the usual steel circular bullet velocity reduecer used in the pistol bays the builder used chopped up used tires. shortly after opening the new bay someone fire some sort of steel projectile and it started a fire in the rifle bay after apparently hitting some tire belting used to stop the bullets. significant damage was done to the range, but was repaired and is still open today. I had moved from MN 16 years ago and as I recall I had heard about it from my daughter who still lives in MN. So I'm very light on details, but I know for certain it actually happened. During my days in MN this was my go-to indoor range, have put many thousands of rounds into the backstop there.

Mike

Interesting, thank you!

[JarheadAZ]

Agriculture is our bane for shooting here in SE Cochise County. Between crops, workers, and Cattle, there's not much land available unless you know an agreeable owner.

We have a privately owned 'pit' (100yd) just outside of town.

Then there's Douglas Municipal Shooting Park (300yd/meters) 50 mi South on 191S from where I live. $60 a yr, 1/2 price for Seniors (me). 5$ a day non-members, must be escorted, closed Mon & Tue, Opens after noon on Wed to public, thru Sun. Douglas is right on The Border. Not good to go alone, although there is a very polite and competent range master "full time".

Greg

[ar15robert]

Speaking of outdoor shooting, recently I've heard two people mention that shooting steel case ammo can cause a fire (the bi-metal bullet hitting a rock and creating a spark). I've heard of indoor ranges not allowing the use of steel case ammo for various reasons, but is there any documented situation where the ammo created a spark and caused a fire? 

Steel case and steel core are 2 different things.Steel case will not start a fire but steel cored ammo can.

[JarheadAZ]

I've shot steel core at steel in the dusk. Looks like a fireworks show. Back East and in the damp season.

https://ammogarand.com/norinco-762x39-steel-core-quotyellow-boxquot-20rd-boxs-noncor76239203992.html

Greg

[RetroG]

Mild steel jacketed bullets will spark when hitting rocks or backstops, and was/is common in cheap imported rounds.

I've even got some old domestic rounds in 30 Carbine that have copper washed (or plated) steel jacketed bullets.

[delta6]

Gilding metal clad steel (GMCS) was the standard jacket material for M80, 7.62X51 and M2, 30-06 USGI ball for many years. Lake City made billions of rounds of it.

[AZDTC]

You’d have to think that the target shooting restrictions on BLM land will be lifted early this year. Last year it was late October if I remember correctly?

[Bwana John]

Speaking of outdoor shooting, recently I've heard two people mention that shooting steel case ammo can cause a fire (the bi-metal bullet hitting a rock and creating a spark). I've heard of indoor ranges not allowing the use of steel case ammo for various reasons, but is there any documented situation where the ammo created a spark and caused a fire? 

Just look at the fire scars on the hillside behind the target banks at Ben Avery for "proof".

And as already noted steel jacket ed, not steel case.

The big part of the steel jacket problem is what kind of rocks the backstop is made of.

[arizona]

You’d have to think that the target shooting restrictions on BLM land will be lifted early this year. Last year it was late October if I remember correctly?

Check their site. South AZ BLM is cleared last I checked.

[PogoJack]

+1 for Rio Salado, and shooting in the heat is great because there are less crowds and less dangerous noobs. I do recommend a growler with ice water and a cooling towel though. The stalls are shaded and they go out to past 200 yards, though not sure what the max is.

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